Have you ever wondered what is the speed difference between emulated and "real" Amiga? And what about the performance of AmiKit compared to the other alternatives?

Check the benchmarks.

Please let me know if you have any ideas what other methods can be used to measure performance of the emulated environments..

Hi @AmiKit

I love that running kitty!

Well, AmiGod 2 wasn't very useful in the first versions of Euae ; slower than an old 486 PC?!

@Snuffy

Cannot you run AmiGOD on A1, outside euae? I would be interested in AmigaOne's CPU marks and Intuition marks.

@AmiKit

I think the intuition speed of a Real Amiga4000 is interesting compared to the emulated boxes.

Hi @AmiKit

The GrimReapers like AmiGOD!

OK, I'll see how it behaves with a CIAgent~

Some kind of A1/Euae Benchmark program would be nice. I know that Euae with generate about a 4 degrees (Celsius) rise in temperature. The CPUTemp.docky shows that! Euae is hot I tell you!

@Snuffy

The same here, but I did some benchmarks.

Only how to make such a graph out of it ?

@benny

You might want to try OpenOffice...

Hi AmiKit

Cannot you run AmiGOD on A1, outside euae? I would be interested in AmigaOne's CPU marks and Intuition marks.

Well, AmiGod2 worked with Petunia now. Here's my first test:


AmiGOD2 by Lukas Stehlik
AmigaOne XE/G4 Gfx system ATI Radeon AGP card 2x
Chipset N/A Sfx system AHI 6.6 & SB-128
PowerPC Motorola MPC 7451at800Hz
CPU 68k 68020 Workbench V52.1
FPU 68k 68881 Exec V52.2
MMU 68k N/A Setpatch V52.1
Memory 256 MB OS version OS4.0 Final with Petunia 52.1
PCIscan:
RV100 Radeon 7000 / Radeon VE (*Power Color SDR 64 MB ram)
? RUNTESTS
AmiGOD2 - 2D graphics
800x600x16 800x600x32
draw *27401 *22785 ops/ second
box 79622 57907
circle 5602 5583
ellipse 7181 7144
pixel 239300 261055
h-line 92665 79367
v-line 30282 20454
Rotate line 19403 19278
Box tunnel 14452 11141
circle tunnel 880 880

Closest Equivalent Graph 2D:
Don Cox *25310
Athlon XP 1700+
GFX TNT2 800x600x32
OS: Amithlon (JIT)
AG2 version 26.12.2002

Snuffy *22785
A1-XE/G4 MPC7451at800Hz
GFX RV100 Radeon 7000/VE 800x600x32
OS4.0 Final with Petunia
AG2 version 15.06.2003

@Snuffy

Only 2D graphs? How many "AmiGod marks" have you achieved? You can find such an info if you enter the AmiGod database. The AmiKit comparison graphs are based on the marks.

Hi @AmiKit

How many "AmiGod marks" have you achieved?

There are 3 software tests and 3 hardware test. Can't make any hardware tests, the program is way out of date. I have the impression I'm running an Amiga 5000!


2D graphics Test: 800x600x32

Draw box 57907 op/s
'' circle 5583
'' ellipse 7144
'' pixel 261055
'' h-line 79367
'' v-line 20454
Rotate line 19278
Box tunnel 11141
circle tunnel 880

22785 Marks----------------< A1-XE/G4 MPC7451@800MHz 256 MB Ram

25310 Marks----------------------< Athlon XP 1700+


Math 68K Test:
5M add 4.500 s
5M multiply 4.519 s
5M divide 4.599 s
5M rnd(x) 6.239 s
2M sqrt(x) 2.799 s
1M sin(x) 1.379 s
1M log(x) 1.460 s
Mandelbrot 5.940 s
88 Marks------------------< A1-XE/G4 MPC7451@800MHz 256 MB Ram

84 Marks ------------------< A4000, 060/60MHz (604e/233MHz), 128MB ram


Intuition Test:
Open/Close window (50x) 1.220 s
Move window (60x) 0.500 s
Size window (120x) 0.360 s
Window To Front (50x) 1.080 s
Print Text (5120x) 2.440 s
591 Marks ----------------------------------< A1-XE/G4 MPC7451@800MHz 256 MB Ram

Closest Equivalent:
460 Marks -----------------< A4000, 060/60MHz (604e/233MHz), 128MB ram

@Snuffy

Did you compare the results with other systems, wich you can within AmiGod 2? It's quite depressing

Errrm.....

How does it compare with OS4 on an A1?

It would be funny if emulation on a fast x86 will eventually beat a dedicated PPC mobo like SAM.

And while I'm at it. How does the Eye Candy in AmiKit compare to the presentation of OS4?

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AmiKit has a theming system called "Morpheuz" that makes it easy to change the look (Birdie patterns, GUI elements, etc.) -- and new themes are being added all the time.

Also -- the new 32bit icon_library is very cool.

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@hotrod

I don’t think you can trust the results being correct.

Because AmigaOS4 behaves differently when it comes to timing, many classic programs contain bugs, they will not read the timer devices as documented, players like Eagleplayers and 303tracker will run too fast under OS4.

1ST: problem: The eclockval structure consists of two long words, but older programs often do there calculation based on static number of tics/sec, or just one of the tow long words.

2EN: problem is JIT often generates some overhead, when generating code, the test routines might not give optimal results.

3RD: Interpreted emulation is way slower then native.

4TH: The application might be using CIA chips, and under OS4 the CIA chips are emulated using ciagent prog, this might not give 100% accurate results.

@BigBentheAussie


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You easily beat the SAM emulating a old 68k program, but consider this test do not include 3D graphics tests.

And AmigaOS3.x emulated on WinUAE to do not have proper access to hardware; this excludes proper support for UBS devices, PCI cards like TV cards and so on.

Whit WinUAE limited to 2 MB of chip ram, and that sticks rat’s ass for many classic applications.

Your WinUAE require you to boot your Windows first, real Amiga computers boots whit seconds.

And you do not get the memory protection.

You do not have “Grim Rapier” on a classic OS, when you play around older programs they often contains bugs, you will not notice this bugs, and there risk your work be lost.

On WinUAE you will not get ABIWorld and Gimp.

Oh yes I know you can use windows programs but don’t you think that kills the point of AmigaOS running in the first place?

@hotrod
Forget AmiGOD2; it's old and out-of-date. I has nothing to do
with OS4. I wish some A1200s with OS4 running would make some test!
I would like to see how an A1 compares to the classical Amiga!!!

@BigBentheAussie

> And while I'm at it. How does the Eye Candy in AmiKit compare to the
presentation of OS4?

It looks great, but the price is JIT speed; there is no JIT in Euae.

@klesterjr
If you got WinUAE ; Euae doesn't have horsepower, or should I say
kitty power! :/

@LiveForIt

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Actually you can emulate the never-released version of the AGA chipset that supports 16 megs of Chip RAM on WinUAE.